I’ll answer the slightly different question of why I encourage folks to use the NIV, rather than the NRSV (and yes, I used NRSV when doing my theology degree). Formal equivalence comparison #4: NASB vs ESV vs NRSV - Acts 2 March 30, 2008 The comparison between formal translations of the Tyndale tradition continues with Acts chapter 2. Kevin, you may consider ESV trustworthy, but I don’t think I will because of the evidence I have seen of wordings deliberately distorted to fit the translators’ theological presuppositions. As an example, see 2 Timothy 2:2, where ESV breaks its regular translation principles to render “men” rather than “people”, the only justification being a presupposition, in fact falsified by 1:5 and 3:14,15, that women can never be qualified to teach others. I had just finished studying selected passages from Hebrew and Greek as rendered by KJV ERV ASV RSV NASB1977 NASB1995 NRSV ESV2001 ESV2007 ESV2011 NIV1984 NIV2011, when I came across your site – and was VERY delighted to see that we agree on the conclusion! Seems like a double-standard sometimes, doesn’t it? Nevertheless, you answered my question, there simply seems to be leeway in the Greek is how a layman like myself might word it. The language of the NRSV is also a strength because it makes it more readable than the NASB, and even the ESV. And where it renders “man” is: 1 Tim.2:5; 5:24; 2 Tim. I was wondering if there are any advantes of the RSV over the NRSV. Lastly, the one other advantage with the NRSV over the NJB or NAB is the … Thanks for ALL for your suggestions for an optional 3rd translation for my next series on TNIV vs HCSB: Robert G.(NET), Randy T.(ISV), Valerie(REB), TC(NLTse). 5 When Jesus [] saw the crowds, he went up the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. Kevin, if you are doing a comparison of the TNIV and HCSB next I would strongly recommend NLTse for a third. It has served me well and I use it all the time. When my original copy fell apart I bought the 1995 update, which was more readable but slightly less literal. nasb vs. nrsv 01/18/2007 11:57 Filed in: Faith & Reason In the comments of a previous post , regular This Lamp commenter, "Larry" has challenged my assertion that the NASB is more literal than the NRSV. I found that the TNIV and NRSV did not use the word “prophetess” in the NT at all. That sounds exciting ElSh. 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My guess is that the UK publisher Collins is putting together an ESV version with the deut. And of course, I will do the same. They are all about in the same category, and they are all great translations in their own right. It’s kind of neat to see the ESV blog’s link to this post. I also think something important for a main translation is having study materials (i.e. Definitely. LOL. But then I decided to give it a fair reading, and I must agree with you than I find it an excellent translation, but it will never become my primary Bible. ( Log Out /  Also, it is always good to stick with genuine leather if possible. Just thought someone here might have a bit more info. Nathan, I’m trying to keep this third translation near the intermediate range between FE and DE. I’ve been using the NASB since 1982. Personally, I like some of it, especially Sirach. The NASB meets that need. It has been underestimated by mainline and secular academic settings in the past, and this is too bad. The New Revised Standard Version of the Bible (NRSV) was published in 1989 and has received the widest acclaim and broadest support from academics and church leaders of any modern English translation.. When the ESV came out I gave that a go as well. For example, in 1 John 4:19 the KJV and NKJV include the word Him after “we love,” but the other five translations do not. The NASB sounds more awkward in its rendering of: “all the things that were coming upon Him.” The ESV’s “ all that would happen to him” or the NRSV’s “ all that was to happen to him” flows better. Heck, I just bought another ESV this week, could not resist the pocket reference single column bible that just came out. Throw in the older New English Bible and original Jerusalem Bible for reference. If I`m not mistaken it was the ASV……of course my 40 year ld memory could be a failing. In my opinion, it deserves greater respect than what it has received. I have found the history in the Maccabbees interesting. Even Dr. Don Carson, who is pro-TNIV, thought that it has done too much with the gender issue. If you want a fairly literal translation and even greater readability than the ESV, plus gender-neutral language, then the NRSV is best. I do consult with ESV more these days. NASB 1995. While the ESV is not my primary text, I still find it an excellent translation. We not speaking of diakonos that refers to both males and females. This was a very interesting experiment, and I would love to see it taken even further at some point in the near future, as these, IMHO are three of the very best translations available. I found myself reading it with Yoda’s voice in my head! The NASB has a stellar reputation for very good reasons. I am no Greek scholar myself either but I just try to work hard at it. I am finding NASB to be pretty good. the NASB and the NRSV together. I have recently started to consult the ESV much more often because I have discovered its excellence. Anyways, this is just the tip of the iceburg on the differences. If you need a copy of the NJB, I picked mine up from Amazon for cheap and it has been nice enough to recommend. What surprised me is that there have been several times when the NASB has superfluously added a word or two to the text where it does not exist in the original language. And of course I had to get out my pen and re-write a few passages (John 1:18, 2nd Peter 1:1, Titus 2:13, Jude 1:4, Revelation 1:8, with some others) to their proper grammatical structure along with wording provided by other manuscripts. Anyway, if you hear anything more about it, I`d appreciate it very much if you posted it here. The ESV is a scholarly translation and will become known as such. But with so many options available, I don’t think so. I think you’re right about Crossway. The beautiful and majestic language of the KJV has had a huge influence on the English language and is very often thought of as the "real" translation, even by people who are not religous. We, however, will not boast beyond limits, but will keep within the field that God has assigned to us, to reach out even as far as you. The ESV website says now in its FAQ, that another publisher (other than Crossway) is preparing a version of the ESV with the apocrypha. The translators of the NRSV did a lot of work in making improvements over the RSV, even more so than what the ESV translators have done with the RSV, in my opinion. In my past, the two translations I usually consult the most are the NASB and NRSV but this should not be seen as a slight to the ESV. Nathan, the REB is beginning to sound like a good choice even though it’s not very well known in North America. This verse really stumps me. I think the NKJV is probably one of the only translations I will never use, along with paraphrases. I noticed that both NASB and NRSV have their own bias, but NRSV seems to be more honest since it provides footnotes of other possible translations. In future revisions, if they could get rid of its inverted negatives, the ESV would be even more readable. I don’t think this is a case of conservative bias—just a decision that could go either way. Another strength of the ESV is that it is the most up-to-date in scholarship. 2:2; 3:2,17. A place to discuss Bible versions, Bible translational and historical issues, etc. This may be a post-modern approach but I do respect each person’s preference. The language of the NRSV is also a strength because it makes it more readable than the NASB, and even the ESV. It would be good to examine, and comment upon, it pre-release, but we do not have that opportunity! My apologies if this has been covered before, as I am new here. Word Study Greek-English New Testament: with complete concordance (Hardcover)by Paul McReynolds (Editor). This is the last of this comparison series between the NASB, ESV and NRSV. NASB and NIV seem to be ... That KJV vs. NIV argument kills me. However, I do believe these are much more accurate than the translations which insist upon applying the male gender even when both genders are obviously implied. In conservative-evangelical seminaries, the NASB is still highly regarded. I just noticed this final report and so decided to edit my post and move it here. Translators of the NASB have done an excellent job and notably so. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors And do not bring us to the time of trial, but rescue us from the evil one. books from the RSV. All three translations are very good, and they are each unique in their own ways. I think I will… just need to select some appropriate verses and find a copy of the NJB to use. The NASB was my first choice Bible for reading, studying and preaching. Plus, the use of inclusive language makes it less accurate. I’m glad you still use the NKJV and NASB because they’re great reliable formal translations. Otherwise, NASB and NRSV are the best versions I have come across. The ESV could seriously challenge the NRSV as my main Bible if only it were available with these books (preferably in something like the HarperCollins Study Bible). I noticed that both NASB and NRSV have their own bias, but NRSV seems to be more honest since it provides footnotes of other possible translations. But it’s the Bible of many academics. Contemporary, dignified with generic language in reference to humans. This is the feminine form for prophet. TC, I have a renewed respect for the NRSV. Or is there a legitimate argument for translating he for it from the Greek? I was willing to overlook its awkwardness at times and inconsistencies. I’ll have to check it out one day. Further study this year has convinced me that it really is the best English version available, and would be superb if properly revised. ( Log Out /  I also would like to say, I think Peter is correct to a great extent about the obvious theological views of the ESV translators showing up in their choice of renderings. I think your series has helped finally convince me that there is no right translation. Like the NRSV when it first came out, ESV translators also made distinctly unique decisions regarding the rendering of certain passages. The NRSV is also an updated version of the RSV. It deviates from the “traditional” rendering of God saying “I hate divorce.” Any thoughts? I do remember though, that it is a pretty obscure verse to translate, and the ESV`s rendering is probably as valid as the traditional ones. It’s the translation I tend to go to first. They are both fairly similar to the KJV. It seems to me that all the gender inclusive translations are a little inconsistent about things like this prophet/prophetess issue. There is a link to a really good 25-page PDF article by C. John Collins, ESV Old Testament Chair. Here’s one that I find interesting in the TNIV: Peter, I agree. These latter versions, despite their difficulties and obscurities, continue to be the most useful for detailed and careful study.”. Kevin, this is a case where προφῆτις is only used in reference to females and not males. It seems the ESV (2007) is more interpretive than the ESV (2001). I’ll reserve further recommendation based on whether or not you are going to do a four-way layout again or not. It’s interesting why the NRSV and TNIV would want to use “prophet” for προφῆτις. The NRSV vs the ESV. The NRSV has moved towards a dynamic equivalence philosophy. From a detailed perspective, it is definitely the most literal in the majority of cases; and overall, from a broader perspective, it is still the most literal of the three. The evangelical bible reading community may not be big users but there is a large-segment in the non-evangelical community that does read the apocrypha. ( Log Out /  I have found that the various translations all render this quite differently. Pardon the sidebar, just thought I`d share since you mentioned interlinears. And would you classify it as a formal translation? But then, the NRSV does this too. Also, the ESV`s rendering in the 2001 edition was changed at some point in one of the revisions, because the 2007 version I have seemed a little “looser” with the translation of that verse than the 2001 edition. This might make the comparison more difficult to do…but I don’t know yet. However I’ve been considering comparing CEV, ISV, and GNB as I’ve not seen any of them used in comparison before. The NRSV is not as literal as the NASB and is slightly less literal than the ESV; but yet, it is very accurate. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. 2 Then he began to speak, and taught them, saying: 3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Nathan, I know Elshaddai loves the REB, but I’ve never used it. Search for a formal translation: NASB vs ESV vs NRSV March 08, 2008 In the future, I will be blogging on formal equivalent translations doing a comparison of how it renders specific scriptural passages. I use both. I like the translation overall, and it is my second choice behind the NRSV(perhaps because they are a nice balance when read side by side? I would classify as a more formal translation, but due to it’s textual basis I can’t justify using it for study. What about the REB if you add a third? The NRSV uses gender-neutral language, while the ESV does not. The New American Standard Bible (NASB), first appearing as just the Gospel of John in 1960, followed by the New Testament in 1963 and the Old Testament in 1971, also claimed to be an authorized revision of the ASV, hence its name. The 2020 is unusually wordy for the NASB. I have long thought this to be true, but it seems for many blogs I’ve read, once that statement is made about readability, it’s the end of any discussion about the NASB being usable. Thank you. All three translations are very good but I do not want to minimize any of their strengths so I cannot prescribe a “best translation”. Kevin, I am looking forward toward your TNIV and HCSB comparison. I guess I have got more used to inclusive language now and it sounds ok most of the time. Version Information. I would like someone to comment on the choice of translation in the ESV on Malachi 2:16. New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) Pray then in this way: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Yoda’s voice…hehe. The literalness in the NASB is in itself, its own strength, and at the same time, it is also its own weakness. Robert, I remember encountering that verse in the ESV a while back, and did some comparisons. I am open minded to all opinions, but I would like scriptural support of version preference. TC, I was wrong about προφῆτις. From what I gather from the Amazon reviews, it sounds really good because it has Strong’s numbers and a full concordance. It is excellent for careful exegetical bible studies. With the ESV, it sort of fills a void that the NASB cannot fill because it stands in between the NASB and HCSB-TNIV. Do you have a favourite you refer to? The ESV is very close to the New American Standard Bible (NASB) in accuracy, and it flows better than the NASB. I am hoping and praying they make a nicer copy of it in a more traditional leather bound copy. And just what you think of these bibles. What about the English Standard Version? Graham, thanks for spotting this. It is concerning a verse in Mark 13:14, in which it says “the abomination of desolation standing where HE ought not to be”, while other translations state “where IT ought not to be”. The NASB is better in some places than the NRSV, and the NRSV is better in some places than the NASB. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, once more, with feelin' ... VPP, VPP, VPP. I checked only 1-2 Timothy, I found where it does render “people” is: 1 Tim. this lamp has moved! Hi Mark, surprised I hadn’t read this one before, but Alexander’s comment alerted me to it. Of the seven, only the KJV and the NKJV are translating what is often called the Majority Text (MT) of the NT. Packer (an evangelical yes, but also an ordained Anglican) served as the general editor of the translation. A prayer of a righteous person, when it is brought about, can accomplish much. I also appreciate the comments about the NASB, even though somewhat more “wooden” in reading due to its literalness, still being readable. I’d rather use the KJV itself or one of it’s revisions that used the critical texts (RSV, NRSV, ESV, or NASB). I don’t have any experience with Word Study Greek-English New Testament by McReynolds but maybe someone else out there does. The entire verse is difficult. The NASB brackets John 5:3b-4; the ESV footnotes those verses. Literal while retaining better readability than the NASB; 30. 1 Peter 3:7 – “live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker” (NASB) vs. “live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel” (ESV) Additions. Many thanks to all who contribute. The NASB, ESV, and NRSV are all very good, and currently, I refer to all three in by comparisons. The NIV is the right-most (not meaning conservative, but furthest right on this chart) while the NASB is the furthest left. The NASB is the more literal version, and is probably more accurate as a result. Nathan, I think my next series will be on the TNIV and HCSB. I also use the ESV (as my secondary (comparing, and occasionally reading, & taking to church) bible, my primary bible is the HCSB. NASB 2020. It might even move it one notch higher in making it a more sought out bible for academic purposes and for reading purposes. The TNIV is my primary text, but I think it’s off on this one. It was actually a mis-wording on my part and you caught it. A. N., Son of EIN SOF. I never was a big user of the NRSV, but my Greek instructor loved it. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. The NRSV is not as literal as the NASB and is slightly less literal than the ESV; but yet, it is very accurate. If one wants the most literal word-for-word precision (in alignment with the Greek) and do not mind the choppiness in reading, plus a conservative theological outlook, then the NASB is best. Well, even after a decade of writing this post, I am still referring to both the NRSV and the ESV. dcsj on October 3, 2019 at 12:30 pm. RSV vs KJV vs NASB vs NKJV vs NIV? These are all less common translations in my circle of influence. Is this an example of the conservative bias in the ESV that Peter and I are speaking of? Thanks for the links Kevin, I will have to read the 25 page article later, but the NET translation note was very good. Steven Avery of Queens, NY BUSTED COLD LYING!!!! Kevin, I really appreciate these comparisons. Did you know that a revision of the NASB is underway, and is planned for release in 2017? 1) The NIV is easier to read for most normal people. I believe that the NRSV tends to be less conservative with how it treats the underlying manuscripts (i.e., deleting more things from the preserved texts), though both the ESV and NRSV are … This makes it excellent for indepth exegetical bible studies. The New Revised Standard Version captures it best, “The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.” A Clearer Isaiah 53:4 So I went back to the NASB. If I was stranded on a deserted island and could choose only one FE translation translation to read for the rest of my lonesome life, and without a chance for a DE to read, I think I might go with the ESV. I found the inclusive language interesting but it sounded a bit odd to me, so I went back to the NASB. 2 Corinthians 10:13 (NRSV) Acts 2:22-23. Yes, other translations have “men” here, but they use the word consistently in a generic sense. I don’t think you can go wrong it. I think you should do that CEV, ISV, and GNB comparison. Very well done series. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Just wondered which statement you think is correct? I would also suggest the NLTse as the third, as so many seem to be using it today. There is some ambiguity in Greek too. Concerning the ESV with deuterocanonicals, I think it would be a very good thing for a more moderate to conservative Episcopalian like myself. Accuracy and literalness should not be equated as the same thing. On the other hand, I cannot see any realistic prospect of either NASB or NRSV being seriously, if at all, revised – because of a shrinking constituency for either. The options are: “We love Him because He first loved us” versus “We love because He first loved us.” The issue here is not translation style. lexicons) keyed to it, which is my problem with my two favorites, the NRSV and ESV. It is literal yet accurate. please go to http://thislamp.com search this lamp: like NLT and the updated NIV. Kevin, I think you’d like a comparison with the REB to the TNIV and HCSB. Hmm, it looks like the paperback is only $5 used as well, anyways…. 6 comments. The NASB is definitely the most literal, the NRSV is the least literal of the three literal translations, and the ESV is somewhere in-between. Kevin, that will be a good series. Also see related posts on formal equivalence comparison: NASB vs ESV vs NRSV. Click to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. But you would be better served probably if Kevin or one of the other regular contributors here checked it out, as they are far more qualified than I for such a task. KJV-onlyism discussion allowed in KJO forum o. I got NASB and NRSV here on my desk. Both the ESV and NRSV are excellent because of their mixture of both readability and accuracy—something the NASB cannot claim. The important thing is that you have a translation that you feel speaks to you. Another interesting bible translation comparison would be a “literary excellence” series, featuring the KJV, REB and New Jerusalem Bible (NJB). The ESV is second in literalness after the NASB. Valerie, I’m excited to see you are reading The Books of the Bible as well. Change ). I … 13:14 “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Kevin, I removed my comment, since you did the right thing in removing that malicious comment. Why Donald Trump uses the word “tremendous” so much? While there aren’t many options for genuine leather in regards to the NJB, you do have some more options with the NRSV. Very late comment on an excellent extended blog! The word “prophet” is masculine. I just wish that I knew enough to tell the difference — which is why I’m so very grateful for the effort you’re putting into this. Towards the `` supposed '' deity of the three excellent translations the differences much if you absolutely! Related posts on formal equivalence comparison: NASB vs ESV question will have resolved itself in favour of the bias. 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